Bad Attorney, Bad Attorney - What'cha Gonna Do? The Podcast

"SteveLehto" (stevelehto) 03/31/2016 at 09:00 • Filed to: None

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Wherein I refer to one particular attorney as a “worthless piece of garbage.” Need I say more?

A few weeks ago, I did an episode of Lehto’s Law about !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! And the peanut gallery was wont* to ask, “Are there not bad attorneys as well, sir?”

Pray tell, yes . So I give you bad attorneys I interacted with personally. One was disbarred, another was fined (and had to give me the money), one was suspended for three years after I testified against him and the last was disbarred and thrown in jail. Good times.

Without further ado - The audio:

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And, the video:

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Follow me on Twitter: !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

Hear my podcast on iTunes: !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

Steve Lehto has been practicing law for 24 years, almost exclusively in consumer protection and !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! He wrote !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

This website may supply general information about the law but it is for informational purposes only. This does not create an attorney-client relationship and is not meant to constitute legal advice, so the good news is we’re not billing you by the hour for reading this. The bad news is that you shouldn’t act upon any of the information without consulting a qualified professional attorney who will, probably, bill you by the hour.

iSureWilll > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:11

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Lehto takes no prisoners!!! Listening to the podcast now since I can’t watch the moving picture.

move-over-peasant-I-have-an-M5-in-the-shop > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:17

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Would people really think "wont" was wrong there? I tend to think that Jalopnik draws a more educated crowd.

drdude > iSureWilll 03/31/2016 at 09:17

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Im watching the moving picture.... go me!

gc8foreva > move-over-peasant-I-have-an-M5-in-the-shop 03/31/2016 at 09:18

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The rage and urge to be right that internet commenters possess are strong.

WanderingWheels22 > move-over-peasant-I-have-an-M5-in-the-shop 03/31/2016 at 09:21

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Thinking was your first mistake, you poor soul.

SteveLehto > move-over-peasant-I-have-an-M5-in-the-shop 03/31/2016 at 09:23

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You’re an optimist. I’ll STILL get complaints about it, I assure you.

whiskertriscuit > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:24

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I have a generally good feeling about any attorney who joyfully uses Lionel Hutz to make a point. But I have to ask, Mr. Lehto, does your business card look like this?

SteveLehto > whiskertriscuit 03/31/2016 at 09:25

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Lionel was my hero. And I only wish my card was that cool.

A-red-Intrepid-stuck-in-the-snow > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:29

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Huh, I learned a new word today (bear in mind that I’m not a native English speaker).
Thanks!

carzcarzcarz > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:33

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Maybe off topic, but I have a question going back to one of your other podcasts about ticket myths. My wife recently got a speeding ticket out in west Texas, and we’d like to get the offense reduced if possible. How do you go about finding a good lawyer in another city, especially a small one like in Sonora, Sutton county?

Keep up the good work, I really enjoy all your posts and learn quite a bit each time.

Have Jeep, will travel. > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:33

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Good attorneys exist because of bad attorneys. Good ones are priceless when you really need one.

SteveLehto > A-red-Intrepid-stuck-in-the-snow 03/31/2016 at 09:34

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It’s a little old-schoolish, and almost always used in the phrase “wont to do,” as in “The haters hated, as they are wont to do.”

The Dummy Gummy > move-over-peasant-I-have-an-M5-in-the-shop 03/31/2016 at 09:37

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You’d be surprised. I’ve definitely see some anger over this word over the years.

SteveLehto > carzcarzcarz 03/31/2016 at 09:37

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With tickets, getting a LOCAL one is usually the most important part. Call a few (do a google search) and ask how often they are in that court, what do they charge and what do they think likely outcomes will be. Then just go with your gut.

carzcarzcarz > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:41

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Great, thank you good sir. One more question if you don’t mind.

Without actually appearing in court (it’s 6 hours away), what all can you hope to get done with a lawyer? Reduced speed or amount, dismissal, nothing, etc???

haveacarortwoorthree2 > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:43

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Let me know if you have any more Texas problems — we’ll take care of it for you.
Opposing counsel and his client sued my client for breach of contract. After a few months, they then added me to the complaint because I had the nerve in our counterclaim to specify all the bad things that the plaintiff had done. Judge tossed their amended complaint and sanctioned the lawyer, but now I always have to say yes on any applications or forms that ask if I’ve ever been sued. We ultimately got a $2m+ judgment against the plaintiff though, so that was fun!

haveacarortwoorthree2 > whiskertriscuit 03/31/2016 at 09:44

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Met a plaintiff’s admiralty lawyer from Hawaii years ago. His card said “Protecting seaman since 19__.” Also had a condom attached to the back of it.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > carzcarzcarz 03/31/2016 at 09:50

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Sonora? Good luck. The one guy I knew in that area moved a couple of years ago, so I can’t recommend anyone. But I-10 through there is a notorious speed trap.

Mr Joshua > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:51

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“disbarred and thrown in jail”

I’d be always looking over my shoulder now Steve. That’s hitman material.

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:54

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Lionel Hutz or Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law, who would you hire?

horse-pony > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 09:56

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I have a nerdy question you’ve probably answered or get asked a lot Steve, but...

If you were going to buy a new car for the first time, which state gives the consumer the most protection? Does it change for buying a used car?

I seriously am debating buying my new car in Michigan if for no other reason than to have you as an attorney and because it seems like there are laws that favor the consumer.

carzcarzcarz > haveacarortwoorthree2 03/31/2016 at 09:57

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Yeah, no kidding, we saw so many cops on I-10. This one busted her when she was passing an 18 wheeler, and I think his speed reading was off, but he wasn’t having any of it and wouldn’t budge at all. Even told him it was our honeymoon, didn’t batt an eye and still gave us the ticket with no comment.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 10:01

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*wont is correct. Look it up before you write angry comments about the descent of journalistic standards and the dearth of editorial oversight on this site.

I’m just happy that my expanded vocabulary as compared to the average person meant that I didn’t need to look that up, as it was already correct.

I can also hear my attorney friends saying: “Worthless piece of garbage? Why on earth would you give him such a glowing endorsement?”

It’s one of those things that when you know, you know. You also know that there is no way to actually describe how bad it really is.

(I’ll stop now before this descends into a Chretienesque statement. I’m sure you know which one I am referring to, about proofs.)

RoadsterRevolution(wants a Range Rover Classic) > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 10:02

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Steve, do you have any advice for someone looking to become an attorney?

JBB > carzcarzcarz 03/31/2016 at 10:04

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Texas has a state law that allows dismissal if one takes a defensive driving course (on line) and has not had a ticket in one year. Alternatively, look for a lawyer named Sutton. There are lots of Suttons out there, some are probably lawyers. The JP may be a Sutton, too.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > gc8foreva 03/31/2016 at 10:05

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Oh, so just like Donald Trump supporters.

aaronet > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 10:08

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Steve Lehto: Law Talkin’ Guy

Joe The Drummer > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 10:12

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“Wont” is correct. Well done. Therefore, the descent of journalistic standards and the dearth of editorial oversight on this site are not your fault.

Please, y’all, have somebody proofread your stuff. Please. Email it to me, for crying out loud. I’ll do it cheap. Whoever does it, just have it done.

in_the_world > haveacarortwoorthree2 03/31/2016 at 10:14

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Driving through there this summer. I’ll be sure to check my speed!

QADude > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 10:18

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Watched you on YouTube last night - awesome job as usual. It makes you wonder how some of those attorneys were allowed to practice law. The same could be made for other professions too... :)

Who said the legal field wasn’t funny?

Dy-no-mite Jay > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 10:24

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lol, people don’t know what “wont” means...

SteveLehto > carzcarzcarz 03/31/2016 at 10:25

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Depends on the court. He/she may be able to do the whole thing without you there. That is one of the questions you ask them.

SteveLehto > Mr Joshua 03/31/2016 at 10:26

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Nope. He’s a weasel. I’d love to see him in person. I’d punch him in the face so hard his relatives would all get headaches.

SteveLehto > My X-type is too a real Jaguar 03/31/2016 at 10:27

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Lionel all day.

Dy-no-mite Jay > move-over-peasant-I-have-an-M5-in-the-shop 03/31/2016 at 10:27

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That’s the problem; you “tend to think”.

You should read the comments a bit more, you’ll find plenty of uneducated people, even on jalopnik...

It’s unfortunate.

Junker_CM > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 10:27

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Do you run around with a belt of scotch and a briefcase full of shredded paper as well? :P

SteveLehto > horse-pony 03/31/2016 at 10:28

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Michigan is middle of the road on this. WI has great lemon laws and so does CA.

Dy-no-mite Jay > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 10:28

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And they surely will do when they read your statement using “wont".

SteveLehto > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 03/31/2016 at 10:29

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A guy last week went NUTS because I had left the “y” off of “every” and he said I hadn’t used spellcheck. When “ever” is a word and spell check would not catch it . . .

SteveLehto > RoadsterRevolution(wants a Range Rover Classic) 03/31/2016 at 10:30

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Stay in school; don’t do drugs.

No, seriously: Get good grades and try to keep your student loan debt low. The name of the law school you attend only matters on your first job (if at all).

RoadsterRevolution(wants a Range Rover Classic) > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 10:31

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I try as hard as I can for the good grades stuff.

SteveLehto > Joe The Drummer 03/31/2016 at 10:31

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Was there something I missed in this week’s post?

SteveLehto > Dy-no-mite Jay 03/31/2016 at 10:32

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Many would jump on that and assume I mean “won’t” - which wouldn’t have made any sense.

SteveLehto > Junker_CM 03/31/2016 at 10:33

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And the birdcage I found in the garbage, yes.

Slant6 > Joe The Drummer 03/31/2016 at 10:35

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This is an open blog. Nobody cares about these things. Most of the posts don’t even have punctuation.

And shouldn’t it be

“Therefore, the descent of journalistic standards and the dearth of editorial oversight on this site are is not your fault.”

I’m not an expert on this stuff, are just sounds wrong, but I could be wrong.

No body is getting paid for these posts.

njotis > Slant6 03/31/2016 at 10:46

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You’re right insomuch as it sounds wrong, but wrong insofar as his grammar is right.

“... descent of journalistic standards and the dearth of editorial oversight on this site are not your fault.”
2 objects = are. Just have to remove the fluff.

Sorry for my pedantry. I’m perpetually gray, so no one will see it anyway.

Slant6 > njotis 03/31/2016 at 10:49

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I can ungrey.

Regardless, no one is getting paid to write here, and until we do we’ll just have to do our best on grammar and semantics.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > in_the_world 03/31/2016 at 10:54

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Yeah, I-10 really sucks. There are some many little towns where they try to hook you. Even I-35 and I-45 aren’t that bad.

njotis > Slant6 03/31/2016 at 10:54

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I’m ungray! My life has meaning today!

I know, and I’m totally with you about the nature of Oppo/Gawker/Kinja/Whatever.

It is a bit irksome when the people who do get paid and those unpaid heroes who regularly make it to front page sites don’t appear to have had anyone read their posts before publishing.

Slant6 > njotis 03/31/2016 at 10:59

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Well, I just followed you for Oppositelock, so you’re ungreyed here. Jalopnik and the rest of the Kinjaverse is out of my power.

Small steps.

njotis > Slant6 03/31/2016 at 11:05

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It’s probably more power than I deserve...

I appreciate what I get though.

Junker_CM > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 11:05

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You’re hired!

Skamanda > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 11:12

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Totally unrelated, but... I dig those mics you have displayed behind you. Do you ever use them? I’m kind of a neophyte when it comes to knowing anything about old gear like that, but I’ve always liked the sound I’ve heard out of some of the older styles of microphone. Do any of them have any cool stories behind them?

SteveLehto > Skamanda 03/31/2016 at 11:16

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I have about 20 old mics and those are my favorite 6. They work but I don’t use them. I use a Blue Nessie for the podcast and a cheap lavalier for the video. The Nessie is fabulous and to use the others I’d have to get a board and some other stuff which I haven’t gotten to yet.

I worked in radio for a long time and have used Shures, EV Re-20s and the famous Sennheisers. My favorite was always the Re-20. They cost about $400 and I might spring for one one of these days.

WhiskeyGolf > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 11:20

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Steve, while filming the podcast:

How about that! I looked something up! These books behind me don’t just make the office look good, they’re filled with useful legal tidbits just like that!

DrJohannVegas > Joe The Drummer 03/31/2016 at 11:35

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http://gizmodo.com/study-people-w…

carzcarzcarz > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 11:44

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Holy crap, just started looking into lawyers out there, and didn’t find any for that county (how’s that possible? seems like great market for somebody). Doing google searches for Sutton County traffic lawyers is not yielding good results. There are lawyers who say they service the area, but the closest ones I can actually find are in Abilene, Odessa, and San Antonio...

That whole area is known for being a big BS speed trap.

Steve thanks for the advice, but I might need your help busting up this farce of a system out in Sonora/Sutton county. Seems they like to catch out of towners and hike up the “clocked” speeds.

http://www.speedtrap.org/city/11600/Son…

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g566…

Sutton county makes all their money off of traffic violations, bogus or not. They issue over 48,000 tickets/year...

SteveLehto > carzcarzcarz 03/31/2016 at 11:48

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There are some rural areas where you might be better served to get an attorney from the nearby urban center. I am not familiar with the lay of the land in TX but a little research should turn up someone who handles a lot of tix in that jurisdiction.

carzcarzcarz > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 11:54

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Alright, thanks again for the response and advice. I’ll try to maintain a level head and keep looking. If you have any tips on how to search for someone in rural areas, I’m all ears.

SteveLehto > carzcarzcarz 03/31/2016 at 11:55

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Internet and phone calls. It’s all you can do.

Shmevans > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 12:05

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I think he was just saying that your post is how things should be done. He’s right, they are great. And that others who are posting need to use his services (?) to ensure their posts are up to snuff before publishing.

SteveLehto > Shmevans 03/31/2016 at 12:07

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Got it. I was worried I missed something (which would not surprise me in the least).

GanjaTwista > Slant6 03/31/2016 at 12:07

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...but I could be wrong.

To continue the pedantry, you are wrong. Remove the prepositional phrases and it’ll ‘sound better’:

Therefore, the descent < snip > and the dearth < snip > on this site are not your fault.

Shmevans > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 12:10

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Nah it’s all good. And keep up the good work. Not sure how much of the advice translates to us in the Great White North (probably more of the common sense rather than the actual legalities) but it’s an entertaining listen nonetheless. Hopefully I’ll never need it one way or the other.

Lincoln Clown Car > carzcarzcarz 03/31/2016 at 12:19

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Might I also recommend, before committing to anyone, that you do a quick check of the website of whatever entity regulates lawyers in Texas (usually the state supreme court in other states) just to make sure the lawyer you found hasn’t been dinged for any ethics violations. You don’t want to hire a drunk who regularly forgets to show up in court at the designated time.

Umrguy42: Add $5 for shipping and handling > njotis 03/31/2016 at 12:25

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...Actually, speaking of being pedantic, wouldn’t it be descent and dearth as the subjects of that part of the sentence?

Umrguy42: Add $5 for shipping and handling > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 12:27

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Wait, are you dual-mic’ing for the video and podcast, or doing the whole thing twice? I assumed that for the podcast, you just stripped the audio out of the video...

SteveLehto > Umrguy42: Add $5 for shipping and handling 03/31/2016 at 12:30

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No, I love the Nessie but it will not work with my camera. So I run a separate mic into the camera. I have tried synching the Nessie with the video and it looks OK but it is a hassle. A few times I have had the recording fail (and also the audio on the video fail) so I have done it each way - but I just do both as sort of a failsafe.

Joe The Drummer > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 12:34

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Nah. Just so many other posts. I love Jalopnik, but sometimes it gives me that grammar-Nazi eye twitch. There is truly no excuse for it.

Joe The Drummer > DrJohannVegas 03/31/2016 at 12:37

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Typos, yes. Web content written by people who are paid money to wrote reading material in the English language? Nuh-uh.

Didn’t anyone else’s English teacher teach them to read their writings out loud before submitting them, or have a friend read it?

SteveLehto > Joe The Drummer 03/31/2016 at 12:39

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There’s the problem: You are holding me to the standard of someone who gets paid to write these posts. Oppo pieces are gratis .

gcodori > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 12:40

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Great stories!

I have worked in the county tax collector/recorder/assessor’s office for over a decade. I started in the tax collector/recorder office working in the Unsecured division - this was people who were delinquent with taxes. It also included boat and business owners (boat owners are horrible about taxes - but that’s another story).

My job, in addition to all of the delinquent stuff and business taxes, I had to file claims for taxes and penalties for chapter 7, 11 and 13 bankruptcies. Typically, there is a window of time to get the amount claimed to court. If you miss this window you’re out of luck. Since government agencies are a top priority (we get paid first and never settle), this was important to us.

The person who files for bankruptcy has to inform the court of all of the liability or debt, and those people or entities need to be notified in order to claim. This includes bills, mortgage, taxes, etc. The amount owed is also reported by the person filing. The court then send out notices saying you can file a claim, and here’s the claimed amount reported to the court.

I once got a claim form for someone who owed back taxes, and the claim form report was in the amount of $500. This was not the exact figure but let’s say it’s not close to the full amount - closer to $5,000. So I file the claim for the full amount plus penalties up to the date they filed for bankruptcy.

Later I get a call from the attorney handling the bankruptcy, asking why I filed such a high amount. I ask him “where did you get the amount of $500?” The Attorney states “the client told me.” LONG PAUSE. I think I may have LOL’d at the phone. Long story short - my claim was sent with proof of the debt and penalties - and told the attorney that he may want to check the other claims as well (I’m sure he was hoping the under-reporting of the debt would be missed by others as well).

After I left the tax collector I started at the Assessor’s office appraising real property. One department I worked in dealt with ownership issues. I’ve got plenty of stories about bad legal advice when it comes to real estate. Like “it’s not a new home but a remodel if you leave a small portion of one original wall up when building a new home.”

Lets just say that when I hear “well, I’m going to get a lawyer” from someone, I reply “make sure they are a real estate lawyer, most regular lawyers know squat about real estate.”

Petehammer > RoadsterRevolution(wants a Range Rover Classic) 03/31/2016 at 12:41

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As a former law student who, along with many of my peers, graduated into 0 jobs, I’ll also give you some advice: go to law school if you have a very concrete, realistic idea of the type of law you want to do. Want to become a DA or a defense attorney? Great. Most of my peers who were so focused found jobs that don’t pay super well and have long hours but they get to do what they went to law school to do. Want to make $150,000/year doing “business law stuff”? No so great. Those days are likely over.

CucumberVlad > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 12:46

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Still working on that first job thing. Damn flooded market.

RoadsterRevolution(wants a Range Rover Classic) > Petehammer 03/31/2016 at 12:46

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Actually I was thinking more along the lines of elder care or insurance.

njotis > Umrguy42: Add $5 for shipping and handling 03/31/2016 at 12:46

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Don’t think so...

“your fault” indicates that “you” (Steve in this case) is the subject of the sentence while “journalistic standards” and “editorial oversight” are the objects of the sentence being acted upon and described respectively.

CucumberVlad > RoadsterRevolution(wants a Range Rover Classic) 03/31/2016 at 12:47

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Make sure it’s actually what you want to do before going heavily into debt.

Umrguy42: Add $5 for shipping and handling > Slant6 03/31/2016 at 12:49

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I hate to beg, but any chance I can get a follow by Oppo as well? I’m already ungreyed on Jalopnik...

Joe The Drummer > Slant6 03/31/2016 at 12:53

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No. It shouldn’t. A descent is, a dearth is, but a descent and a dearth are.

Joe The Drummer > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 12:58

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Oh.

Still no excuse. Does that mean that Jalops should hold DIY wrenching to a lower standard as well? I mean, I’m not being paid to do my own brakes.

Umrguy42: Add $5 for shipping and handling > njotis 03/31/2016 at 13:04

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...No, I’m afraid not. Let’s look at it again:

Therefore, the descent of journalistic standards and the dearth of editorial oversight on this site are not your fault.

Let’s ignore “Therefore” - forget the part of speech it is (maybe a conjunction? here), it’s not really relevant though.

We have “descent of journalistic standards” and “dearth of editorial oversight”. When you see “of”, that indicates a prepositional phrase. Those prepositional phrases are *modifiers* to the main subjects - which are “descent” and “dearth”. “Are not” is the verb phrase here, and “fault” is the object (“your” being the modifier clarifying *whose* fault). Grammar-wise, “you”/Steve is in no way the subject of that sentence (although it is being addressed to him).

I’d diagram the sentence, but I can’t find a good tool that isn’t more effort than it’s worth. :P

SteveLehto > Joe The Drummer 03/31/2016 at 13:05

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Well, it depends. I’ve had people freak out over the smallest things. I try to write well but typos happen. If you spot a typo and feel like taking the time to point it out, great. Not sure what that gains anyone. But try to keep your response proportional.

It ain’t the end of the world.

I’ve also had people point out typos that weren’t. I was keeping a list for a while but then it got too cumbersome. Like the moron who told me “balk” was misspelled and should have been “baulk.” I call him a moron because a simple check online would have revealed my spelling is the accepted version in the US. Where I reside.

And if you make a mistake when pointing out a “mistake,” all bets are off. As noted above. (And no, that guy never responded after I pointed out that I was right and he was wrong.)

GMo > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:11

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Four y’all intensive perposes...that guy from a few weeks ago can’t say shit!

GMo > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:13

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I’ll gladly continue to read your pieces, typos or not. It’s the information I’m after!

PartyPooper2012 > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:15

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I was wont Babushka meaning grandma, but you won’t have any of it

jimz > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:15

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I’ll never understand people who demand perfection from everyone else even though they themselves are not perfect.

jimz > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:17

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what’s that? you want me to drink you? But I’m in the middle of a trial!

SteveLehto > PartyPooper2012 03/31/2016 at 13:19

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A call out to my twitter feed? That’s an advanced move.

And there, too, the dictionary vindicated me. While “Babushka” may mean “grandmother” in RUSSIAN, it has been adopted in English to mean the headscarf worn by the little old lady, not the little old lady herself.

That was an example of someone who just wanted to convince the world that he/she was smarter than everyone else. Which obviously was not true.

jimz > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:19

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Detroit area folks will get this one:

Petehammer > RoadsterRevolution(wants a Range Rover Classic) 03/31/2016 at 13:19

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Which side of insurance? I interviewed at an insurance defense firm and it was soul-sucking (the interview, not even working there). Maybe not all insurance defense firms are like this, but I’d check around, see if you can visit one, meet with people. It’ll give you a good feel.

I am a member of the bar, but I don’t practice law and thus don’t carry insurance (required in my state). One of the neat things (for me in my area) is a charitable organization that provides insurance if you do pro bono work for senior citizens at a local senior center. I found that really interesting (and depressing, because most were indigent). Law students would volunteer there as paralegals. But it was a neat way to get acquainted with elder law without committing to it.

I would see if there are similar opportunities in your area that you could at least check out, even if for two hours a month, to see how it feels. Better to do that than after $X in debt. (I decided second year of law school that I didn’t want to be a lawyer and now do public sector labor relations. But many of my friends went on, eventually, to practice law).

SteveLehto > jimz 03/31/2016 at 13:20

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I know someone who works for her.

But the billboards still scare me.

RoadsterRevolution(wants a Range Rover Classic) > Petehammer 03/31/2016 at 13:24

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In the area that I live in, there is one elder care attorney in the state and he gets clients from all over the state and is very successful and good at what he does. The demand for it is extremely high and it is not something a lot of people have thought about around here. Most lawyers in my city are injury lawyers.

hornguardwi > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:26

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One of the few things WI has going for it right now...aside from beer and cheese.

sklooner > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:34

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The video needs more pyrotechnics and unrelated dancing

PartyPooper2012 > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:34

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Are we talking dictionary.com or Webster’s? Therein lies the difference. Dictionary.com has all sorts of gobbledygook in it. I fear Babushka may be in there as well.

Much obliged for recognizing the commentary on tweeter. Advanced move indeed

SteveLehto > sklooner 03/31/2016 at 13:38

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Give me time. I’m still dialing it in . . .

jimz > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:39

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a couple of years ago she put up new ones, and the one at 8 Mile & Woodward I initially thought was an ad for a jeweler.

SteveLehto > PartyPooper2012 03/31/2016 at 13:39

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I have a copy of the OED on my desk.

ON MY DESK.

(And for those who know not of the OED, I weep for your souls . . .)

SteveLehto > jimz 03/31/2016 at 13:40

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Great example of someone who has too much money and still no one she can trust who will tell her No.

apolloink > SteveLehto 03/31/2016 at 13:43

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Hey Steve I have a quick question if you read this me and my friend were wondering if some has a car that has a loan on it is customized and gets repossessed do they give him back when he spent on it do they sell it and put it to his loan or what ? If your not sure I appricate it hopefully someone who deals with this sees it.